What Does Freedom Mean in the Age of Trump? (with Timothy Snyder)
The Michael Steele Podcast
The Bulwark
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🗓️ 28 November 2024
⏱️ 66 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | negative freedom politically allows the people who are already fine, essentially, you know, |
| 0:05.1 | the billionaires to say, well, wait a minute, let's not have any policies that might help other |
| 0:09.9 | people do okay because government's the enemy. And then people go along with that because they |
| 0:14.7 | want to think, well, I'm okay. I don't need any help. I can do it all on my own, right? Which of course |
| 0:19.0 | is never true. Like to create an individual, you have to have cooperative work. |
| 0:24.8 | And so thinking of that support as creating freedom is the thing that we have trouble. |
| 0:29.9 | Wow. |
| 0:30.6 | Okay. |
| 0:42.3 | Welcome to the Michael Steel podcast. I'm excited about our conversation today. |
| 0:45.3 | It's a little deep, so I want you to settle in and it's going to make you think a little bit. |
| 0:50.3 | That's always good. |
| 0:51.3 | We can use that even though, you know, with the end of the year, folks want to think about parties and all that good stuff. We'll get to that. This will be a healthy start for those for those quiet moments. Because my guest today is Timothy Snyder. He is the Richard C. Levin Professor of History and Global Affairs at Yale University and a permanent fellow |
| 1:12.7 | at the Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna. Yes, that Vienna, not Vienna, Virginia, but the big |
| 1:19.1 | Vienna. Tim took to social media in the early days of Trump's election with 20 lessons that |
| 1:27.1 | he put out there, learned from his many years of studying |
| 1:30.6 | European history for protecting our freedoms in the face of authoritarianism. |
| 1:35.8 | That piece went viral and became 2017's On Tyranny, a slim manifesto for survival and resistance that became essential reading during |
| 1:48.0 | Trump's first term. So as we now enter a second Trump term, Tim is out with his latest book |
| 1:56.0 | on freedom. It is out now. We get into what this book is all about, its impact on our thinking and understanding of what freedom really is and what it isn't. |
| 2:10.7 | We're going to get into it with Timothy Snyder coming up right here on the Michael Steel podcast, right after this. |
| 2:19.0 | Once upon a time, Amazon Music met audiobooks, and listeners everywhere rejoiced. |
| 2:24.8 | Oh, yeah. |
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