Hannah McCarthy here. This is Civics 101. If you've listened to us in the past, you've almost

certainly heard my co-host, Nick Capadice, or me say, you know, if you have any questions, please ask us.

We will do our best to answer them. Now, over the past few weeks, we have released several episodes

about immigration and immigration and customs enforcement or ICE.

We tried to get down to the very basics of the system, how it works and what has changed about it.

One thing we did not do, however, is explain exactly what we meant when we kept referring to people, quote, being

detained. Fortunately, Tyler was listening.

Hello, Civics 101. This is Tyler from Milwaukee. Love your show. My question today is,

what is detained and how is it different from arrested? And how long can someone be detained without being arrested?

Thanks.

So a huge thank you to Tyler without whom we might have glided glibly on thinking we knew what detention actually was.

And a huge thank you to our guest who does know what it actually is.

Yes, my name is Georgiana Pazano-Getz. I'm a practicing

immigration attorney and professor in Texas. You might remember Georgiana from our episode on

Asylum, what it is and how it has changed. And to my great relief, she was willing to once again

help me wrap my mind around something that is referenced

constantly in the headlines, something that so many journalists, myself and Nick included,

might talk about as though everyone knows what it means, when in actual fact, I really didn't.

All right. So first, Georgiana, what is detention? Yeah, what is detention? I don't know that

it is that different than what people are picturing in a criminal sense, in that it looks like jail or it

looks like prison, but it is people with or without immigration documentation. People who are not citizens are taken into government custody, specifically the custody of the Department of Homeland Security, and they stay there until whatever citizenship or immigration proceedings they are in or not in resolve. And how does someone end up in a detention center? What

gets them there? So what would get them into a detention center is that they are not a citizen

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