In this episode, Andrew Wiebe, David Gass and Bobby Warshaw have a long conversation about Sergino Dest, emerging Ajax fullback, US U-20 star and US national team starter against Mexico. Only … we didn’t know that when we recorded! So the guys ponder whether Gregg Berhalter will start the 19-year-old dual national, who just got a call from the Dutch U-23s and what the push and pull says about the program. Plus, Bobby builds his ideal “play proactively” XI against El Tri.

>Also in the episode … Nations League begins and Canada know they’ve got to be perfect! The guys heap praise on the underrated Maxi Moralez, NYCFC’s diminutive playmaker. Are LAFC vulnerable without Carlos Vela? Yeah, probably. Top expansion draft picks and most disappointing MLS team of the last decade.

3:40 – Sergino Dest … Should he start vs. Mexico (he will, says Berhalter) and what’s his future with USMNT?

23:12 – How should the US play against Mexico?

32:38 – Goal.com’s Jon Arnold gives the Mexico perspective

39:36 – Why Concacaf Nations League matters and is very fun

43:37 – Why Canada has to be perfect to get into the Hex … and that’s fair

48:05 – Maxi Moralez is the most underrated attacker in MLS

52:48 – Are LAFC just a little bit vulnerable? What if Vela is out come playoffs?

55:10 – MAIL: Best expansion draft pick of all-time? Most disappointing team in the last decade?