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What Does Christian Hedonism Offer the Depressed?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2013

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Our joy does not only glorify God when we feel happy and carefree. God is also glorified when we cling to his supreme worth in the midst of pain.

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0:00.0

In episode 19, we talked about times when God withdraws His presence from the Christian.

0:09.7

And Pastor John, there, you talked about Micah 7 versus 8 and 9 in that context.

0:13.6

I think it's worth revisiting this theme to ask the question, what does Christian hedonism

0:18.8

have to offer a depressed Christian?

0:22.2

Besides that Micah 7, 8, and 9 text, there's another beautiful text for people in darkness.

0:30.0

In Psalm 139, you ask the Psalm, where shall I flee from your presence?

0:34.6

And in verse 9, it says, if I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of

0:39.7

the sea, even there your hands shall lead me and your right hand shall hold me.

0:44.6

And then it says this, if I say, surely darkness shall cover me.

0:50.2

Now notice, it doesn't say, if darkness covers me, it says, if I say.

0:54.9

So this is a person who is despairing and speaking to themselves darkness.

1:00.2

If I say, surely darkness shall cover me and delight about me be night.

1:06.0

Even the darkness is not dark to you.

1:09.4

The light is bright as the day for darkness is as light with you.

1:13.6

I think that's capturing the person who is on the brink of despair

1:19.2

and is saying, darkness is all over me.

1:21.8

It's just covering.

1:22.8

I don't see any light and what is calling us to do is say, in that experience,

1:28.6

in that very moment, feeling all of that desertion and all of that darkness,

1:34.1

we say, this darkness is not dark to my God.

1:40.0

He sees me.

1:41.8

He knows me.

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