Hello and welcome to Jes Whiticle a podcast by the Breezily young serenely hip and refreshingly lay editors of American media.

That lay part means we aren't Jesuits but we work with them.

Join us each week for a smart Catholic take on faith culture in the news, often over drinks.

I'm Ashley McKinless joined by Olga Cigarra.

Hey guys, and Zach Davis.

Hello.

You sound relaxed.

I am. I'm enjoying my vacation very much.

Thank you.

Hello again from all of us.

We are still enjoying our little Jesuitical sabbatical.

I don't know where we are at this exact moment but hopefully relaxing on a

beach or a park or something but we have another wonderful interview that we wanted

to bring for you guys while we were on break so who are we talking to Olga? you an associate professor of architecture at the University of Detroit Mercy.

Some of the projects he's worked on include the Jesuit community at Fairfield, which is a beautiful

cabin-like building, and the Jesuit high school chapel in Sacramento, is really striking it's a pointed

white structure which looks like a really really classy spaceship yeah that's

my architectural talk right there yeah this is really fun fun because this is an area that is so far outside my wheelhouse.

And then to hear someone talk about it from a specifically Jesuit perspective was super interesting.

It was a really fun one.

I was absent for this interview, which upsets me because I live with two architects.

And I'm sure they would have really loved this.

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