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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

What does Andy Burnham really stand for?

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.5278 Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Keir Starmer has resigned. Andy Burnham is preparing for power. But what will a mid-parliament change of prime minister mean for the government? How should an incoming prime minister prepare for the biggest job in government? What can an outgoing leader do to ensure a smooth transition? And after seven prime ministers in a decade, could another change at the top finally bring greater stability to British politics—or is volatility now the new normal? The Economist's Hugo Gye joins the podcast to discuss what happens when power changes hands mid-parliament, and what Burnham's arrival could mean for the government, the Labour Party and the country. Presented by Hannah White. With Cath Haddon and Alex Thomas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Every decision I've taken has been about putting the country I love first.

0:13.5

That is why I will resign as leader of the Labour Party.

0:17.8

Kirstama has quit.

0:19.2

Andy Burnham is preparing for power. But what will a mid-parliament

0:23.7

change of prime ministers mean for the government? I'm Hannah White and this is Inside Briefing

0:29.7

the podcast from the Institute for Government. So the coronation of Andy Burnham is apparently

0:35.5

drawing nearer. Darren Jones, the chief secretary to the Prime Minister,

0:39.0

has ruled out standing for the Labour leadership, making it increasingly unlikely that there will be

0:44.4

a contest to succeed Kirstama. So, how should Andy Burnham use the weeks he has available to prepare

0:51.4

for the biggest job in government.

0:58.3

How should Kirstama, if he is inclined to do so, help him?

1:03.1

And as the UK prepares for its seventh Prime Minister in a decade,

1:08.5

what are the prospects of this period of intense volatility drawing to a close,

1:14.2

if even a Prime Minister with a huge majority can't survive for long in number 10.

1:19.8

All that to come in our discussions today, Kath Haddon, our senior fellow, is dialing in from Deptford.

1:21.0

Are you keeping cool there, Cass?

1:23.4

Yes, yes, I should be all right.

1:38.0

Here in the relative cool of our improvised podcast studio, which we decamped the room in the IFG that has air conditioning, I have with me Alex Thomas, our executive director for Impact, who has just returned from a week in Thailand. Was it hotter there or here, Alex?

1:45.2

It was probably about the same temperature, but it was considerably muggyer there, so I'd still take the British summer over the Thai steam.

1:51.4

And I am delighted that Hugo Jai, the new political correspondent at The Economist, has joined us in the studio.

1:51.9

Hi, Hugo.

1:53.3

Hello, thank you for having me.

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