What Does America Need to Survive Another 250 Years?
The Trey Gowdy Podcast
FOX News Podcasts
4.7 • 6.5K Ratings
🗓️ 3 February 2026
⏱️ 20 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, this is Trey. |
| 0:20.0 | Thank you for joining us for a Tuesday edition of our podcast from |
| 0:25.2 | snowy cold. I guess the snow is stop, but it's still on the ground. South Carolina, we're not |
| 0:31.6 | used to that, but it only happens every 25 years. |
| 0:49.3 | Speaking of things that don't happen that often, I met a man last week who said he was on the verge of celebrating his 50th wedding anniversary, 50 years. |
| 0:52.6 | That is quite an achievement. Didn't meet his wife, so I don't know how big of an achievement that is, but 50 years is a long time to stay committed to something or someone. I drive by restaurants in my hometown that have been around longer than I have been around. I take note of law firms where partners have stuck together for the entirety of their careers. |
| 1:19.9 | I was at a little drop-in, I guess you call it, and former co-worker of mine, former chief of staff, now the district attorney in the largest |
| 1:34.4 | county in South Carolina mentioned during her remarks that we had worked together for 18 years, |
| 1:42.4 | which I counted it up, which is a challenge for me, but I did count it up, |
| 1:48.1 | and she's right. |
| 1:50.0 | 18 years we worked together until she went on to greener pastures. |
| 1:56.3 | I could not be prouder of her. |
| 1:58.2 | So you begin to think about human nature and what makes us, what makes it, who doesn't make it, |
| 2:06.6 | what propels us to survive versus what makes us give up. |
| 2:11.5 | And you wonder whether you can analogize more broadly to a country. |
| 2:17.4 | Why does some countries make it while others are adrift |
| 2:21.0 | in chaos? How to some democracies survive while others are relegated to the dustpin of history. |
| 2:28.0 | I do like studying the Greeks and the Romans. They seemingly ruled the world as they knew it until they didn't, until it all fell |
| 2:36.7 | apart. We turned 250 years old in about five months, and I don't know the best analogy, partnership, |
| 2:46.6 | marriage, contract. What I do know is we are going through a rocky stretch, like a couple |
| 2:54.0 | who aren't quite sleeping in separate houses, but they're definitely sleeping in separate bedrooms. |
| 3:01.6 | And you start to wonder, how does this happen? How did it happen? was it always destined to be like this are we |
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