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Hello creatives. I'm Joanna Penn. And this is episode number 663 of the podcast, and it is Sunday the 18th of December

2022 as I record this, but this show is going out on Boxing Day, 2022, so happy holidays

wherever you are in the world. So in today's show, I'm sharing a discussion I had with

Orna Ross on the Ask Ally podcast, where we do a

monthly advanced salon. We discuss Annie Duke's fantastic book, Quit, The Power of Knowing

When to Walk Away, and share some of the things we have quit, from social media sites to

blogging and podcasting, to writing specific book series,

business models, jobs, cities and even countries.

So I hope the discussion helps you consider what you might need to quit in order to make

room for what you want to achieve in 2023.

You can find our discussions as well as more help for self-publishing on the Ask

Al-A-L-I podcast. That's Ask Ask, obviously, and Ally A-L-L-I podcast on whatever you're listening

to this on. And our December episode is on the trends for 2023, including the

creator economy, generative AI tools tools and how social media is changing in

2003, which should be going out on the YouTube channel. Already it should be there on YouTube

and on the audio feed around the 30th of December if you want to listen to that too.

A few other things. I put out my recommended books list for 2022 on my blog, links in the show notes,

and the list does include Quit, as well as some others you might enjoy for fiction and nonfiction.

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