What do the Trans & Non-binary community need most right now?
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Pod Save the UK
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🗓️ 26 May 2024
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Nish and Coco are joined by Abigail Thorn (actress, writer and host of PhilosophyTube) and Freddy McConnell (writer and journalist) to examine the issues facing the trans and non-binary community in the UK today.
In recent news, the current Tory government has proposed new guidelines for education in schools across England. Education Secretary Gillian Keegan said that gender identity should not be taught in schools to students of any age. Abigail and Freddy respond to these news headlines and also discuss The Cass review, a proposed new approach from the Labour Party around the Gender Recognition Act, and which individuals need highlighting for their work on trans rights in the UK.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome to Pod Save the UK. This is a very special episode that we recorded on |
| 0:04.8 | Wednesday the 22nd of May and a great conversation about the challenges |
| 0:09.3 | facing the transgender community at the moment in this country. |
| 0:12.8 | It was recorded before the election announcement |
| 0:15.8 | and that's why it's been released after we had a conversation |
| 0:19.6 | about the general election. |
| 0:20.9 | But we're so proud of this episode, so please listen and enjoy. |
| 0:25.3 | Hi, this is PodSaith, the UK. |
| 0:29.5 | I'm Nish Kamar. |
| 0:30.2 | And I'm Coco Card. |
| 0:31.5 | This week, the government says schools should stop teaching |
| 0:33.7 | children about gender identity. We're joined by Freddie McConnell and |
| 0:36.8 | Abigail Thorne and we call bullshit on the claim that students are being |
| 0:40.1 | taught about 72 genders. |
| 0:50.0 | Last week the government announced new draft guidance for schools in England and Wales to not teach about, and I quote, the concept of gender identity. To explain what gender identity refers to, that's the personal sense of how we define our own gender. |
| 0:56.0 | For some of us that corresponds to the sex assigned a birth and for others is something else. |
| 1:00.2 | So essentially, regardless of your age, whether you're 17 or 7, the updated guidance is clear, |
| 1:05.0 | gender identity shouldn't be taught. |
| 1:07.2 | The proposals came from Education Secretary Jillian Keegan who says that schools should make it clear |
| 1:12.0 | that gender ideology is a contested subject. |
| 1:14.7 | That's her phrases not as. The document asks that schools do not use any materials that present |
| 1:19.7 | those quote contested views as fact and that includes the view that gender is a spectrum. |
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