Hey everybody, it's the Shay Anything podcast, Doug Williams alongside Andy Martino, who, with a terrible week of weather in New York and the Tri-State area,

who was escaped to Scottsdale, Arizona, and in a brief period of time that I've been with you

today, you've been all about how beautiful it was.

It was, look, what can I say?

It was lovely.

Did you, so let's get some behind the scenes, GM meetings versus winter meetings, because

it seems like the winter meetings are are very chaotic and stressful and

yeah not as fine but you don't really leave at all did you leave the complex at the GM meetings

only to go to in-and-out burger which was also a wonderful thing i don't know why i'm surprised there's

in and out in Scottsdale but i guess it's kind of west coast yeah yeah uh you didn't actually have to

leave it was an omni resort in scottes that you could leave, but there's everything you needed.

There were the sources that you needed.

There was food, there was drink, there was outdoor seating.

So I didn't leave, but it was really because why leave?

Did you, how did you get to in and out?

Like, could you walk, how did you get to In-N-Out? Like, could you walk?

Or did you Uber?

Disha from the Daily News drove a group of writers to In-N-Out at one point.

Does Disha just drive a massive car?

No, we kind of...

You piled in.

We piled in. situation in a rental but it was worth it because every time you have in and out it's like oh my god

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