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Politics Unpacked

What Do The By-Elections Mean?

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

Politics, News & Politics, News

4.11.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

After the Conservatives suffered two by-election defeats but were spared the embarrassment of a whitewash, Matt explores what it means for Sunak and Starmer's fortunes with polling expert John Curtice, Red Box Editor Patrick Maguire, Conservative Minister Claire Coutinho, Labour's Thangam Debbonaire and Lib Dem leader Ed Davey.


Plus: Columnists James Heale and Eleni Courea discuss political expectation management, lobbying via WhatsApp, and why teenagers are getting their news from TikTok.



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0:00.0

Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast. I'm Matt, surely bringing the best of my Times radio show.

0:08.2

You can listen live Monday to Friday, 10 till 1.

0:10.4

On your DAB radio, on your smart speaker, on your Times radio app, and actually today

0:15.3

it's probably the sort of day we should have been listening live to the whole show,

0:17.4

because it was an awful lot happening. But fear not, we've rounded up all the best bits.

0:21.1

We've got the best analysis of what the three bi-election results actually mean.

0:26.7

Patrick McGuire, New Times columnist, and Times Radio Senior political correspondent

0:32.3

Justin Binonats. He draws me alongside John Curtis to pick over the entrails of it all,

0:36.4

and actually separate the spin from the realities that's coming up in just a moment,

0:40.4

rather columnist panel as well. But first, as we always do on a Friday, let's take a look

0:44.8

at what we learned this week.

0:51.4

We learned that Simon Mayo once dabbled in politics.

0:55.2

I set up my own political party, which was only joined by my sister,

0:59.7

and so we were the only two members.

1:01.7

It was called the Independent Social Democratic and Radical Liberal Party.

1:05.2

We learned how they changed the Simon on police cars.

1:08.6

Can I ask you a really stupid question about you pressing the hall?

1:12.0

Yes, so it just changes the type of Simon.

1:17.4

We learned that Keir's timer won't say that things can only get better,

1:21.4

and obviously 97 was last time.

1:23.3

And the mood then was one of growing optimism.

1:26.8

That song, things can only get better.

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