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🗓️ 18 February 2025
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In 2018, President Donald Trump said “I’m a tariff man”, declaring they were the way to make America rich again. Six years on and just weeks into his second term, he is putting that philosophy into practice. President Trump has announced a barrage of new and increased tariffs on imports into the US, including a 10% levy on all goods from China. He has threatened 25% tariffs on imports from Canda and Mexico, although those were put on hold for a month. And he has announced a strategy of reciprocal tariffs, promising to match other countries’ barriers to imports from the US with equivalent levies on their exports. It is a time of turbulence. What does it mean for the energy transition?
To analyse what all these actual and threatened tariffs mean for energy security, the economy and the climate, host Ed Crooks – Vice-Chair for the Americas at Wood Mackenzie - is joined by three policy experts from the US and Canada. Samantha Gross is the director of the Energy Security and Climate Initiative at the Brookings Institution in Washington, DC. Joseph Majkut is director of the Energy Security and Climate Change Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. And Andrew Leach is an energy and environmental economist at the University of Alberta.
Together they discuss the Trump administration’s strategy, and where it might lead. How do the tariff plans align with President Trump’s goals for boosting energy production and driving down prices for consumers? What happens to complex international supply chains as tariffs rise? And where does this leave the global effort to curb greenhouse gas emissions? Samantha Gross says the situation is ‘”rotten for the climate”. Does she have a point?
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0:00.0 | I feel like this administration are in some ways seeding the energy future to China, and I think that's just bananas. |
0:07.4 | All of a sudden you're moving towards a world where people can get cheap, reliable electricity anywhere in the world, |
0:13.1 | and that changes our advantage in a fundamental way. |
0:18.3 | Hello, and welcome to The Energy Gang, a discussion show from Wood McKenzie about the fast |
0:22.8 | changing world of energy. |
0:24.3 | I'm Ed Crooks. |
0:25.4 | President Donald Trump famously said a few years back, I'm a tariff man. |
0:29.9 | And in the first few weeks of his second administration, he's been giving us a clear |
0:32.9 | explanation of what that means in practice. |
0:35.3 | We've had a lot of new tariffs. |
0:37.6 | Tariffs that have been introduced, tariffs that have been threatened, |
0:40.8 | tariffs that have been threatened and then dropped, |
0:42.4 | tariffs that have been threatened but then delayed until next month, |
0:45.0 | and so on. |
0:46.5 | And all of this has some big implications for energy, |
0:50.0 | and that's why it's going to be the focus of what we're talking about |
0:52.4 | on the show today. |
0:54.4 | And that's why I'm particularly pleased to welcome three of our favourite policy experts |
0:58.2 | onto the energy gang. From Washington, we're joined by Samantha the Growth, |
1:01.6 | who's the director of the Energy Security and Climate Initiative of the Brookings Institution. |
1:05.8 | Hi, Samantha. How are you? I'm well. How are you, Ed? |
1:08.1 | Very well, thanks. Very well. All the better for seeing you here today. |
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