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Coffee House Shots

What do Boris and Biden want?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2021

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

The Prime Minister is in America to meet Joe Biden and discuss COP26 and the new Aukus security pact. But what do the two leaders hope to achieve? Also, the Labour party conference is this weekend. can Keir Starmer get the left of his party to heel or will his leadership be brought even more into question? Katy Balls speaks to James Forsyth and Isabel Hardman.

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0:00.0

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0:06.5

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0:16.6

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast.

0:24.3

I'm Katie Balls and I'm joined by James Seifin Issafe and Isabel Hardman.

0:33.8

Boris Johnson's trip in America continues. James, Boris Johnson's meeting with Joe Biden later today. What do we expect to be on the agenda?

0:38.5

Well, I think Joe Biden has in some ways set the agenda already. We've had his speech for the UN General Assembly and he's announced that the US is doubling its contribution to

0:42.4

climate finance, which makes it much more likely, but you'll be able to get to about $100 billion

0:47.8

of climate finance from rich nations by COP 26. I think this had been a big UK concern, you know,

0:54.6

that Boris Johnson has spoken about it very publicly on Monday,

0:57.1

but that they weren't going to get to that sum of money,

0:59.9

which would have made the chance of getting an agreement there even more difficult.

1:03.9

So that's going to tick one.

1:05.5

Then obviously there is the continuing fallout from the UK, Australia, US deal. I think you'll expect them,

1:12.4

you know, to see them both kind of welcoming that, talking about it, you know, Biden in his speech

1:16.8

just now, the UN General Assembly is talking about how the US doesn't want a new Cold War.

1:21.4

The subtext of that might be that the, it is having, I mean, I think the US view would be that

1:25.5

it is having one forced upon it and it is taking steps. And then, and as you've said yourself, Katie, that there'll obviously

1:32.2

be the usual kind of watching of the dynamic between the two of them. I think one of the things

1:36.9

that is often ignored is how, and you saw this at the G7, how keen Boris Johnson is to point not just to their kind of

1:46.3

shared international outlook, but similarities in terms of their domestic agendas, you know,

1:50.7

the big infrastructure spending, build back better, which, you know, Johnson has stolen from

1:55.2

Biden as a slogan or borrowed, I think, I'm not sure who coined, you certainly wasn't Boris Johnson

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