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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

What Did We Learn in Iowa?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

What does the debacle of the Iowa caucuses mean for the trajectory of the 2020 Democratic race? The columnists discuss the Democratic electorate's neat split on the ground in Iowa, Bernie Sanders's path to the nomination, and whether the Hawkeye State still deserves its first-in-the-nation status. Then, how worried should we be about the Wuhan coronavirus — and what does its spread say about China’s global standing? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.1

I'm Ross Douthit.

0:02.2

I'm David Lee and Hart.

0:03.5

And this is the argument.

0:05.8

This week, what the heck happened in Iowa?

0:13.6

We're sleepwalking into this scenario

0:16.2

where we all have to take this giant risk.

0:21.0

Then, how worried should we be about coronavirus?

0:23.9

And what does it say about China?

0:26.2

There is a story here of like this is how

0:28.2

China blows up the world.

0:29.9

And finally, a recommendation.

0:32.0

You kind of understand just how big it's going to become

0:35.7

and just how politely influential it's going to be

0:38.3

come in a way that she the character doesn't.

0:44.2

This year's Iowa caucus was a mess.

0:46.5

There were technical problems, which

0:47.9

meant the state didn't release any vote counts on Monday night.

0:50.8

And everyone was left confused about the state

0:53.6

of the Democratic race.

0:55.4

We are taping this on Tuesday afternoon

0:57.3

when it seems that Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg

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