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And welcome to Coffey House Shots, the Spectators Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Isabel Hardman. I'm at Labour Conference with Katie Balls and James Hill

and we have just come out of Kieer Starmer's speech to the conference.

James, you were in the hall, how was it received?

Well I think it got a fair number of stunning evations, 10 by my count,

but I think it was a bit love of speech like the Liverpool weather we've had in the last couple days

patchy gray a little bit uninspiring but with a strong end at the conclusion of it and

really I think there was bits in the sort of first half of the speech where at times it even

bordered a sight on the soporific really, it sort of went off the audience, there was long

period without applause, but then there were some particular bits where, particularly when he was denouncing the thugs and the far right rioters of this summer's disturbances,

where he got strong applause on that, also talking about homelessness, and then the conclusion as well listing the various achievements

and values of this Labour government and they obviously ate that all up and of course there was a moment with

a heckler as well and I think these days every Labour politician wants to have a heckler

because it means that they get

someone to denounce and talk about the Change Labor Party. So overall I think it did

nothing that people in the hall enjoyed it but I think that for people coming

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