Very interesting, but some of his searches, though, Dr. Joni, and let's face it, he was studying to be a criminologist.

So searching other serial killers wouldn't be that out of the ordinary because that was part of his field of study.

However, some of his other searches of the sexual nature and specifically some of the porn and the violent porn he was looking for, that could raise a few flags and be a bit disturbing.

Your thoughts, Dr. Joni.

I agree.

I think that you're right.

I mean, when I think, when I hear about searches about, you know, sexual or pornography that involves women sleeping or being unable to resist or that kind of thing, it certainly tells me this is somebody who isn't, who's attracted to this idea of having complete control over somebody in a sexual way. So not so much you're looking necessarily for an

equal partner or somebody they can have that kind of genuine relationship, but somebody they can

dominate and have this sense of control over. And I think when we look at some of, you know,

Brian Coburger's background, you know, it makes sense. I mean, it's not uncommon, I think,

for people who felt bullied in the past,

who felt helpless or victimized in the past by other people,

to want control.

But the form it's taken in terms of having this sexual interest

and completely powerless women, I think, is disturbing and concerning.

So would that be the type of woman he would have been attracted to women that were maybe

of a more passive nature, a timid type of woman?

You know, I'm certainly speculating here about him, but I would certainly say, so I want

to be sure I say that.

I'll say it probably more than once as we're talking. But what I think what I'm saying is not necessarily. So for example, if I'm,

you know, if I have this fantasy of being a complete control, it may not have a lot to do with who

my partner or my, I want to say my victim maybe is as much as it is the interaction that we have.

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