What Did Kohberger & His Dad Talk About On The Drive To PA? Ret FBI Behavior Chief Speculates
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
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🗓️ 10 April 2025
⏱️ 12 minutes
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Summary
What really happened during that long, tense cross-country drive with Bryan Kohberger and his dad after the alleged murders? Was it father-son bonding… or a silent ride full of secrets?
In this episode, retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke breaks down what might’ve been going through Kohberger’s head—if he's the one who did it, of course. From allegedly compartmentalized planning and sloppy timing to the eerie body cam footage from that infamous traffic stop, Dreeke walks us through how someone trying to hide in plain sight might totally miss the mark. There’s also a deeper dive into how a troubled academic career and past drug struggles may have masked darker intentions to those closest to him. And what about that mysterious “note to dad” found in his apartment? Was it just a grocery reminder or something far more chilling?
We also unpack the emotional nightmare facing Kohberger’s family—especially his dad—who may end up delivering the most damning testimony of all. Could their truth-telling be the thing that seals his fate?
If you were the parent of an alleged killer, would you be able to testify against them?
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| 0:21.0 | This is Hidden Killers with Tony Bruske. Here now, Tony Bruske. Just like, I have to do this. It doesn't matter. They're not going to care. They're not going to notice and just right over his head. You gave that more thought than I think he did. Yeah, probably did. Probably did. Yeah, I think he was just literally, he says, I have to do this. I'm going to do this. And that's, and he's just, |
| 0:25.1 | I studied it. I got to make sure I don't have my fingerprints on anything committed his crime. |
| 0:30.1 | I got to, for a period of time, man, I think he's, he's working in blocks of time that he thought were going to be appropriate. That's why he didn't turn his cell phone off from the time he thought of committing a murder, like a year maybe prior to actually committing it, if he was doing it from that, if he was actually really, really thinking deeply, again, let's use, let's assume it's him and he's not convicted yet, obviously. |
| 0:47.6 | But if he, from the single point that he said, I'm going to need to, I need to do this to feel some of rush. |
| 0:53.2 | This is what my plan is from that point on is when he should actually start turning his cell phone off when he goes out for a drive. |
| 0:58.5 | Rather than a time block like the night of it because now it's too obvious. |
| 1:03.7 | He has to, in order to hide in plain sight, you actually have to create plain sight normal behavior over a large period of time. |
| 1:10.9 | That was what is now, granted, I feel like I'm giving instructions on every serial killer |
| 1:14.6 | out there. |
| 1:15.9 | But you got to establish periods of time. |
| 1:17.8 | I only do this because literally, when we're recruiting a spy, how does a spy hide in plain |
| 1:23.1 | sight? |
| 1:24.5 | They didn't go from zero to spying for us. |
| 1:26.7 | They went over a period of time. |
| 1:28.6 | They established a pattern of behavior over years and decades of being able to have |
| 1:34.2 | covert conversations with us that would look like they're not to everyone else. |
| 1:38.4 | I know I'm kind of being a little coy there. |
| 1:40.3 | But in these cases, I think if he was actually doing a good job, he would have been |
| 1:45.2 | thinking longer term of establishing patterns of behavior. I mean, think of, you were just talking about |
| 1:49.3 | the Hurerman case. Hureman established a pattern behavior slowly escalating over a huge period of time, |
| 1:56.4 | you know, all these other serial killers, but he's brand new fresh, and he was thinking so compartmentalized |
| 2:02.4 | right in here, that was thankfully for us and the investigators of law. |
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