What Democrats Can Learn From #NeverTrump

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🗓️ 28 February 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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In this special crossover episode, The Bulwark's joins Matt and Brian to answer burning questions like:

* Why have most Never Trumpers have embraced liberalism and the Democratic Party to some degree or another, rather than remain conservative critics within the GOP?

* If Republicans sincerely believe life begins at fertilization, why are they pretending to be the saviors of IVF?

* How (and where) do Republican operatives learn to be remorselessly unconcerned with norms, fairness, and consistency?

* Do Republicans have a good laugh when Democrats pass up opportunities to hold Donald Trump accountable, knowing how they’d react if the shoe were on the other foot?

* What would it look like from the inside if Republicans discovered Joe Biden committed half a billion dollars in fraud, or teamed up with foreign intelligence agents to frame Donald Trump?

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We also offered Tim the opportunity to quiz Matt and Brian about Democrats, the tensions and dysfunctions that complicate big-tent liberalism, and what they would change about Democratic politics to improve Joe Biden’s chances in November, if they could only pick one thing. You can listen to that half of the crossover on podcast.

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0:00.0	I'm so happy we did two hours because the last 15 minutes of this have been the best of the whole double-headed because this is right this is right this is because this is an opinion
0:08.9	some of the stuff we've been talking about is opinions that I've rehashed over and over again. But this take about the emoluments thing is right.
0:15.8	And you don't hear people say it.
0:17.2	Hey everyone, you're listening to the politics podcast this week Matt and I decided to do a
0:27.2	crossover episode with Tim Miller who's the new host of the Bullworks podcast.
0:33.0	For those who don't know, Tim was a Republican operative for many years,
0:36.0	then fell out of GOP politics over Donald Trump,
0:39.0	which is why he landed at the Bullwork, which is of like the main online outposts for Never Trump
0:45.2	Conservatives.
0:46.7	We thought it'd be fun to let him pick our brains for 45 minutes and then turn the tables.
0:51.2	So this is us turning the tables and grilling Tim Miller about all of his
0:56.6	sins. How's it going to? Of which there are many yeah and that you know I mean I'm kind of
1:02.4	like a neoliberal moderate squish at this point.
1:06.8	I don't know.
1:07.8	Outpost of never Trump Conservatives.
1:09.0	I'm Monacharran is still holding it down at the bulwark, you know I don't know some of these
1:14.0	some of these days my squishyness is overtaking so so you're like kind of
1:18.4	anticipating the questions that we wrote down a little bit, but no it's fine.
1:22.6	But we will want you to like help us understand the cosmology of the tiny little elite
1:27.4	Never Trump universe a bit.
1:28.8	It's important because they're only like, we're about 4% of the country but we may determine whether or not
1:34.4	the country lands in an autocracy or not.
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