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The Brian Lehrer Show

What Comes Next for Israel and Gaza?

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Fred Kaplan, Slate's War Stories columnist and the author, offers analysis on what comes next for Israel and Gaza.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Brian Lairer on WNYC, and so for our last 15 minutes, we get back to the big breaking news of the day.

0:18.2

This has been a historic day in the Middle East with the release of the

0:21.7

20 remaining live Israeli hostages from captivity in Gaza by Hamas and a release of about

0:27.7

2,000 Palestinian prisoners, many without charges filed against them by Israel. Israel has pulled

0:34.5

back its military and if promises are being kept,

0:42.5

open Gaza much more widely to food and medicine and other relief supplies coming in.

0:50.1

Of course, the hostages and families of those killed on October 7, 2 years ago will have a lot of healing and grieving still to do.

0:57.2

And the Palestinians have such a long road and much they cannot undo with more than 60,000 people dead and Gaza lying in ruins. We'll play a few clips from this morning, but also talk mostly

1:02.8

about what comes next. President Trump is there getting a lot of credit from everyone for getting

1:09.0

this process this far. Maybe you've heard a few of the clips out there about how hostage family crowds have

1:15.6

cheered Trump, but booed Netanyahu.

1:18.6

Here is Prime Minister Netanyahu from a speech this morning on what could possibly come next.

1:23.6

A proposal that opens the door to an historic expansion of peace in our region and beyond our region.

1:31.9

Mr. President, you are committed to this peace.

1:35.5

I am committed to this peace.

1:38.1

And together, Mr. President, we will achieve this peace.

1:42.2

So Netanyahu there.

1:44.1

I also want to play a report from NPR's Ayuribatrawi on the Palestinians. We will achieve this piece. So Netanyahu there.

1:49.4

I also want to play a report from NPR's Ayabitrawe on the Palestinian situation.

1:52.6

Now, here is that 38-second report.

1:59.0

The UN Humanitarian Agency Ocha says real progress is underway with cooking gas entering Gaza for the first time in months.

2:01.8

People in Gaza have been burning plastic, clothes, wood, tires, and other items to bake bread and boil lentils and pasta.

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