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What Comes First: My Obedience to Jesus or My Joy in Jesus?

Ask Pastor John

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John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

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🗓️ 14 November 2018

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Does our obedience or our joy come first? Pastor John explains that joy-driven obedience is the only obedience worth pursuing.

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0:00.0

Well, how is my obedience connected to my joy?

0:07.3

It's a question today from Jonathan.

0:09.6

Hi, Pastor John.

0:10.6

I'm a seminary student in South Africa.

0:13.0

My question is about Christian hedonism.

0:16.0

What a deep and powerful thing enjoying God is, which God used greatly in my conversion.

0:22.5

After a couple of years, however, my joy in God grew very dim.

0:26.7

Not only my joy, but also my contentment and pricing of God above all else, a most

0:32.4

joyful state, but it disappeared.

0:35.4

This is especially true when I fall into sin.

0:37.5

I feel that sin blinds me to who God is, and thus I don't enjoy Him for who He is because

0:42.8

I can't see Him for who He is.

0:44.7

Is that true?

0:46.0

And how much of our joy in Christ is only achievable and possible in a state of robust

0:51.2

obedience to Christ?

0:53.4

Pastor John, what would you say to Jonathan?

0:56.2

I'm going to say things a little differently than Jonathan, but first let me affirm his

1:02.4

insight, namely that when we are living in disobedience to Christ, our joy in Him will

1:11.2

be minimal or non-existent, depending on the depth and duration of the disobedience.

1:20.0

That's true.

1:21.3

So you might say our greatest enjoyment of Christ can only be enjoyed, can be had in

1:28.8

a robust state of obedience.

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