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UK. Welcome back to the Homefront Live. I am your host today, Reid Galen. It is almost noon in the east and almost nine in the west. Today I am joined by

the one and only Charlie Sykes. Charlie, welcome. Hey, happy Monday. Happy well, as happy as it can be

these days. So, Charlie, the reason I ask you to be on today was the concept of what comes next.

Now, I know that it may seem like, well, we are living a fever dream and the idea that the

Trumpocene era may one day end three and a half years from now, at least the direct

Trumpocene era, seems almost too far away.

But now you see things like Elon Musk and Mark Cuban

talking about third parties. And so my question for you today is, where do the never-Trump folks

going back to 2015 and 2016 go when this time finally ends.

Okay, so first of all, thanks for inviting me.

I'm probably the worst person you could have invited to ask that particular question.

I have kind of a dark view.

I put out my newsletter a few minutes ago.

And, you know, honestly reflecting on the fact that back in 2015, there were a lot of never Trumpers in the House and in the United States Senate. You could actually identify that as part of the Republican

Party. One of my takeaways from the big, beautiful bill, is to recognize that never Trump

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