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What chronic pain taught Ross Douthat about God and suffering

Jesuitical

America Media

Spirituality, Christianity, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality

4.8949 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

You might know Ross Douthat as the token conservative at The New York Times, or the Catholic critic of Pope Francis. But in his new book, The Deep Places: A Memoir of Illness and Discovery, you’ll see a different side of Ross: a father and husband suffering with an incredibly painful chronic disease, looking for relief—and answers. We talk to Ross about how his experience of chronic Lyme disease affected his faith, what it taught him about the suffering in our society that is often out of sight and how friends and you can best accompany a loved one who is sick or in pain. In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss President Joe Biden’s meeting with Pope Francis, and share the pope’s prayer intention for the month of November. Want more Jesuitical? Join our Patreon community to get bonus episodes! Links from the show: Biden says Pope Francis told him to ‘keep receiving Communion’ Leaked draft of bishops’ document on Communion lacks explicit reference to pro-choice politicians Burned out, overworked or depressed? Pope Francis is praying for you. The Deep Places: A Memoir of Illness and Discovery What’s on tap? Pumpkinhead Ale from Shipyard Brewing Company Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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SMA follow-on-on- Milk is the babies over six months as part of a varied weaning diet, not intended to replace breastfeeding.

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SMA Nutrition, pioneering baby nutrition since 1919. Hello and welcome to Jesuitical, a podcast by the Young Hip and Lay editors of

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America Media.

0:57.0

That lay part means we aren't Jesuits, but we work with them.

0:59.8

Join us each week for a smart Catholic take on faith culture in the news, often over drinks.

1:04.9

I'm Ashley McKinnis and I'm joined by Isaac Davis.

1:07.3

It's great to be with you Ashley and I'm pretty excited about the new addition to our studio.

1:11.2

Yes, tell me about it.

1:13.2

So I just spent the last, like I only have to start over once.

1:17.4

30 or so minutes building our new bar cart.

1:20.6

Yeah, it looks amazing.

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It's only taken us four and a half years, but we finally have like a single location where our booze lives, where you've got some books, some things sent to us from listeners. Honestly, a lot of it mostly like quarter filled bottles

1:34.3

of different corgills and liquors that we've used for ingredients.

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Yeah, we need to stock up and get a shaker.

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It's embarrassing.

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The way, the things we've resorted to to shake and stir our

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