Being stuck in all patterns and in avoidance for me becomes so painful that I don't want to do it anymore.

Maybe you can try to contain it, but it's your own choice.

You can suffer now if you want, but you can also not suffer.

Hi everybody, this is Joe Hudson and welcome to The Art of Accomplishment, a podcast where

we explore how you can get the life you want with enjoyment and ease.

And today we're doing something a little bit special. I've for a long time wanted to talk

to people who have been through the master class for years.

Like people who've been doing it and have done it years ago.

And mostly I wanted to do that to learn how the effect was happening for them and what

we might need to change or want to augment about the course and just generally just how

everybody's experience was, especially like year, two years, three years

later. So today we have three folks here with us and I'm going to give them a chance to

introduce themselves in just a second. One did the masterclass a year ago. One did it two years ago.

One did it three years ago. And so we're going to find out what their experiences were like

and what we might be able to learn from it. did it three years ago. And so we're going to find out what their experiences were like and

what we might be able to learn from it. And so let me start off with the person who was

the longest, which is Caroline, three years ago. I recall, yes. I was like, which one am I?

I was like, I know I'm not one, but I might be two, maybe three, hard to say.

And Caroline's a writer from Berlin, but is there anything else you'd like to introduce about

yourself before we get started?

Well, I mean, I'm not German, I think is important to say.

But I have lived in Berlin for almost six years, and I write fiction and nonfiction, and I help

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