Hey, friends, welcome back to another episode of Theology.

My guest today is Dr. Daniel Lee Hill, who has a PhD from W.

in college and is an assistant professor of Christian theology at George W.

Truitt Theological Seminary at Baylor University in Waco, Texas.

He's the author of several books, including his most recent book,

Bering Witness, What the Church Can Learn from Early Abol abolitionists, which forms the basis of our

conversation. We do end up wandering into some controversial questions around voting and

our current situation regarding immigration. So yeah, you'll have to see what you think about how we tackle or think out loud through

some of those complex questions.

So please welcome back to the show, the one or only Dr. Daniel Lee Hill.

Daniel Hill, welcome back to Thealjean.

How are you doing this fine Texas morning for you at least?

I'm in Idaho.

Yeah, we're doing all right.

You know, it's only 90 degrees.

So this is like, this is like spring weather for us.

Oh, man. Oh, man.

Oh, man.

No mountains and no, and lots of heat, Texas.

But you guys got the barbecue, so that makes up for it.

Your latest book, Bearing Witness, what the church can learn from early abolitionists, seems fascinating. Why don't we start by you taking us back to the early abolitionist movement? First of all, what got you interested in that?

And then maybe give us just a broad overview for somebody who may only have a really vague

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