"What Can I Do if the Traditional Latin Mass is Taken Away?" (Special Podcast Highlight)
The Patrick Madrid Show
Relevant Radio
4.8 • 588 Ratings
🗓️ 28 June 2024
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
When Storms Hit: Trust in the Captain!
In this episode of The Patrick Madrid Show, Patrick addresses a heartfelt dilemma from a devout Catholic listener. She's torn between her love for the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) and her discomfort with the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) community near her.
Listener's Dilemma:
Raised Catholic: Deeply committed to her faith.
SSPX Parish Nearby: Feels uneasy about their anti-Pope stance.
Love for TLM: Finds the Traditional Latin Mass profoundly beautiful.
Valid Mass: Believes the new Mass is valid and respects those who attend it.
Deep Dive: Understanding SSPX
If you're unfamiliar with SSPX, Patrick will tell you more about it and how it came about. The Society of St. Pius X was founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in the mid-20th century. Lefebvre, a French-speaking bishop, was dedicated to the traditional liturgy and established a seminary in Switzerland. He upheld the traditional Latin Mass even after Vatican II introduced the Novus Ordo Mass.
Key Points:
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre: Missionary work in Africa; founder of SSPX.
SSPX and Vatican II: Opposition to the changes introduced by Vatican II's Sacrosanctum Concilium.
Consecration Controversy: Lefebvre’s unauthorized consecration of four bishops in 1988 led to excommunication by St. Pope John Paul II.
Current Status: Excommunications lifted by Pope Benedict XVI, but SSPX remains in a complex canonical status. There's still a lot of confusion, unfortunately.
The Ongoing Debate:
Schism or Not? Canon lawyers and church authorities debate SSPX’s official standing.
Confession Faculties: Pope Francis granted SSPX priests faculties to hear confessions.
Flourishing Independently: Despite the controversies, SSPX has grown with numerous chapels and vocations.
Patrick’s Insights:
Affirming Validity: The new Mass is valid. Even SSPX adherents should recognize this, despite their criticisms.
Current Restrictions: Acknowledge the restrictions on TLM but maintain peace and trust in Jesus.
Biblical Wisdom: Patrick draws a parallel with Mark 4:35-41, where Jesus calms the storm while the apostles panic.
Advice for the Journey:
Stay Calm: Don’t let the fear overwhelm your faith.
Trust in Jesus: He guides the Church through all storms.
Remain Loyal: Stay faithful to the Church and avoid fringe groups.
Pray and Hope: Things will improve with time.
Reflection Passage:
Mark 4:35-41: Reflect on Jesus calming the storm and trust in His leadership through turbulent times.
Inspiring Hymn:
Stabat Mater Dolorosa: A beautiful reminder of standing faithfully at the foot of the cross, just like Our Lady.
Final Encouragement:
Stay the course, remain Catholic, and trust in Jesus. Remember, this is His Church, and He will guide it safely through every storm.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I want to start, though, with an email from a listener who's going through a dilemma right now, |
| 0:06.3 | born and raised Catholic, a devout Catholic. The essence of the dilemma is that there is a, |
| 0:13.9 | an SSPX parish near where this listener lives, she and her husband. And so she says, I would never go to an |
| 0:23.5 | SSPX church. And for those of you who are not familiar with the term, it's Society of St. Pius |
| 0:28.6 | the 10th. And by way of background, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, who is the founder, the progenitor of this movement, he labored for many years, this is in the |
| 0:41.9 | early to mid-20th century. He labored for many years in Africa, in Senegal, for example. He was a French-speaking |
| 0:51.1 | bishop who had started a seminary in a Cohn-Switzerland, |
| 0:56.0 | in the French-speaking section of Switzerland. |
| 0:59.0 | And he was very committed to the traditional form of the liturgy, etc. |
| 1:05.0 | And so when Vatican II took place in the early to mid-60s, he maintained the seminary as a way to form seminarians |
| 1:13.7 | in the training for the priesthood to celebrate the traditional Latin Mass, etc., etc. |
| 1:19.8 | So after many years of labor in the missions, he sort of settled into that role, and he became |
| 1:26.4 | a magnet of sorts for men and women and of course |
| 1:31.1 | vocations who were interested in living out their Catholic faith and the traditional right. |
| 1:37.4 | Keeping in mind that that right had been more or less upended by Sacrosanctan Conchilium, |
| 1:42.6 | which is the document from Vatican 2 that instituted |
| 1:45.9 | and promulgated the new right of the mass. It's also known in Latin as the novice order |
| 1:50.5 | or the new order of mass. Now, that promulgation did not abrogate or it did not in any |
| 1:58.4 | official way terminate or abolish the traditional Latin Mass. |
| 2:02.5 | But I think in the minds of many, if not most people in the Catholic Church, certainly |
| 2:07.5 | predominantly among the clergy, that was the net effect. |
| 2:11.5 | In their eyes, the traditional mass was basically kaput. |
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