What Biden Learned From the Last Crash
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🗓️ 18 November 2020
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
Joe Biden and his chief of staff have negotiated a massive fiscal stimulus package before. How should the incoming administration regard the 2009 Recovery Act -- as a blueprint, or a cautionary tale?
Guest: Mike Grunwald, senior writer for Politico Magazine and author of The New New Deal: The Hidden Story of Change in the Obama Era.
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| 0:00.0 | The president's got the authority to nominate or appoint more than 4,000 government positions. |
| 0:12.8 | And right now, Joe Biden is hiring. |
| 0:16.9 | So far, he's got a chief of staff, a lawyer, a few advisors, many of them old Washington hands. |
| 0:25.1 | You've known a lot of these characters for a long time. |
| 0:29.5 | Well, I did spend some time in Biden world, so it's not my first rodeo, I guess. |
| 0:36.1 | I got Mike Grunwald on the line. |
| 0:38.2 | He writes over at Politico. |
| 0:39.9 | Because he's something of an old Washington hand himself. |
| 0:44.1 | He covered Biden for years. |
| 0:46.5 | Certainly, he's gotten some of the old band back together. |
| 0:50.4 | But it's a very different deal when he's in the chair. |
| 0:56.1 | He always had this fascinating relationship with Barack Obama. |
| 1:01.6 | He would always say, you know, we got the order of this ticket right. |
| 1:05.3 | You know, he had run for president in 2008 and Obama had beaten him. |
| 1:16.5 | And he had a certain just incredible respect and even awe for Obama's talents in the same way he would also, there was kind of a slightly |
| 1:21.5 | condescending way he would talk about the way Obama wasn't really quite as much of a people |
| 1:26.5 | person as he was and didn't have as |
| 1:28.7 | much political understanding as he did and certainly didn't understand the Senate, you know, |
| 1:34.6 | with his long experience there. So it's very different for the president-elect being the |
| 1:43.1 | president-elect. the president-elect. |
| 1:52.7 | Mike says, understanding the Senate, it's one of the most important things Biden's growing staff can do. And it's a place their boss has studied for a long time. After all, the last time |
| 1:59.7 | Biden was in the White House, the housing crisis |
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