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This is Science Friday. I'm Flore Licksman here with Ira Flato.

Today in the podcast, are we ready for super powerful artificial general intelligence?

And will we ever get there?

How do you really test that?

And how do you know when we've got there?

And it's not clear at all that we'll get there on the current path.

Every week, you know, it feels like there's another AI advance. Some company produces a system that will

write proposals better than you can or makes more life-like pictures or videos or wrangles data in a new way.

And most of these systems are still limited to a few specialized tricks in what they can do.

But how close are companies to creating something that can virtually think on its own or

outperform humans on any task? What researchers are calling AGI, artificial general intelligence.

And that's what we are talking about this hour.

All right, let's get into this.

Let me introduce our guests.

Will Douglas Heaven is a senior editor for AI coverage at MIT Technology Review.

He's based in the UK.

Welcome back.

Hi.

It's good to be back.

Nice to have you.

And Dr. Ruman Shoudri, founder and CEO of Parity Consulting and the Responsible

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