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Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

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Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

iHeartPodcasts

Astronomy, Physics, Science, Natural Sciences

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Daniel and Kelly talk about recent mathematical innovations that suggest a third category of particles beyond matter and forces.

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0:00.0

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0:06.6

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0:48.9

How does the universe work?

0:52.4

What are the rules that govern its most microscopic nature?

0:57.2

For a few hundred years, we've been making progress on this question, mostly by taking things apart.

0:58.6

And when we zoom into the universe at the smallest level, it seems so far like there are two

1:03.5

different categories of particles.

1:06.2

Matter particles like quarks and electrons and force particles like photons and gluons.

1:11.7

For a long time, it seems like that has to be all there is.

1:14.9

What else could there possibly be?

1:17.2

But experiments aren't the only way to reveal the secrets of the universe.

1:21.2

Another very fruitful path is to follow the math.

1:24.8

When we ask what else the math allows, we sometimes get predictions for very

1:28.9

weird phenomena like antimatter or black holes or Higgs bosons, which turn out to be real

1:34.9

in the universe. So can the math show us another kind of particle? A weird third way beyond

1:41.7

matter and forces? Welcome to Daniel and Kelly's extraordinary mathematical

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