What Always Never Works
The Gathering Room Podcast
Martha Beck
4.9 • 714 Ratings
🗓️ 30 April 2026
⏱️ 32 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Gathering Room podcast, the audio version of my weekly gathering room broadcast. |
| 0:08.1 | Today, I want to talk to you about time and language. Yes, I want to talk about time language, |
| 0:16.7 | specifically words, the words always, never sometimes um these are very you'd think that |
| 0:26.3 | there would be sort of trivial things to talk about in a in a podcast that's specifically about |
| 0:31.3 | awakening and spirituality but actually i think they lie right at the heart of the issue. Last week, we tried to have |
| 0:39.5 | Eric Zimmeron. We couldn't get the tech to work. So I did an interview with him, recorded it, |
| 0:45.6 | and you'll see it soon. And he's lovely. His book is called The Howl Little Becomes a Lot. It's |
| 0:49.8 | terrific. And we were talking about, he says in his book, if you want to start a war with someone, |
| 0:56.7 | just tell them that they always or never do something. And I thought about that, you know, |
| 1:01.8 | in relationship how often I think, you know, that person never finishes anything or that person |
| 1:07.9 | never like initiates contact or whatever it is and always and never |
| 1:15.4 | are virtually always wrong however we just love those words because we seem to love |
| 1:22.8 | absolutism so i was raised as you know in a very absolutist religion, and I recently saw a |
| 1:30.9 | Netflix special about a branch of it. So I was raised LDS, and then there's a branch of Mormonism |
| 1:37.1 | called F-LDS, or fundamentalist Latter-day Saints. And they practice polygamy. And the documentary, |
| 1:46.9 | maybe you've seen it, is about a dude who decided that he was going to anoint himself as prophet in that community. And he started doing, |
| 1:53.0 | he married a lot of women, some of them, and girls, children, and started his own little cult. It's a fascinating documentary. And one of the |
| 2:03.6 | most interesting things about it is everybody I've talked to who's seen it is like, why would |
| 2:08.9 | people see him as a prophet? Like he's not a particularly charismatic person. He doesn't seem to |
| 2:17.0 | have great ideas. I mean, one of his biggest ideas is he's |
| 2:20.8 | going to get, he's going to make a music video so that the queen of England will see him on it |
| 2:26.8 | and come and marry him. And then he'll be in charge of England. Like, it's not really |
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