So, guys, Derek, more plate 208s.com. Today we're going to be talking about realistic trend

results for guys with average genetics. This is a thread that was posted on the more place where

eight subredite worst trend cycle being too cautious is the title. Figuered I would share my

worst cycle story and hopefully might help some people out. I was always an active but skinny kid,

but only started lifting weights at 15. And by by the way this is like there is before and after pictures we will get to those at the end of the video um or part way through

my i don't know what part it's going to come up and only started lifting weights at 15 when i was in

high school i was a cross country runner and was basically skin and bone i don't remember my exact weight

but i was the typical scrawny team with no muscle and skinny guy abs. So I wanted to get some muscle.

Obviously, my training and diet took a few years to get on track, but I trained three to six

days per week and went hard.

By 18, I had my diet and training down.

It worked out every day.

I was still a cardio freak and ran multiple marathons that year.

I was insanely small, weighing about 150 at 6-1 and at 10 to 12% body fat, but was a calisthenics monster

at my peak I ran a marathon in 310 and could crank sets of muscles up, muscle ups,

with a 45-pound plate chained to my waist, do kick-ups, and true one-handed pull-ups.

I even suffered a pretty severe injury

to my leg that even eight years later still bothers me. So with running out of the question

and a growing fascination with bodybuilding, I decided to bulk up. I cut cardio and spent the next

six years training with weights at minimum five days a week and eating big to get big. Of course, this resulted in getting a lot fatter, but also a lot stronger.

At 24, I decided to cut back down, and I've never been so disappointed.

After nine years of training from 15 to 24, I felt I had barely put on any muscle.

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