Hi folks, welcome back. This episode is all about what my guest, Jenna, learned from doing a

hardcore 10-day Vipasna meditation retreat, where you meditate 14 hours a day on next-to-no-sleep

and very little food. Also, you're forced to stop doing and just be, which is something so many people find almost impossible. Next time you're going to stop doing and just be, which is something so many people find almost impossible.

Next time you're waiting to get a train, just have a look down the platform.

Everyone or at least 89% of people will be on their phone scrolling.

Those moments that are peppered throughout the day when we're invited to just be, people are desperate to escape them.

And the amazing thing is, though, the more time you spend just being, embracing just being,

it changes from being torturous, a torturous experience, and can reveal a causeless bliss that lies at the heart of being. Obviously, you're elite hockey player.

I know you've trained for an ultra, you've climbed to Everest base camp.

So you're a real doer.

And then we chatted before we started recording a while back.

And you told me about going on a Vipassan a retreat, which is like hardcore meditation. So what was it like 10 days, like meditating like 14 hours a day or something like that? And you said it was harder than an ultra. So can you just talk a bit about what that was like and why, for example, it was harder than an ultra? Because, you know, on the face of it, it's just sitting there for long periods of time. But yes, you know, compared to an ultra, which is doing to the nth degree, whereas this is being to the end of degree. Yeah, totally. Like, so it was the same year I did an Iron Man triathlon and, um, and vipassan, which is a 10-day silent retreat,

people often ask me like, why did you do that?

And I suppose the Iron Man and the training for the Iron Man was like,

was what I knew.

It was, you know, setting yourself a goal and working hard to achieve it.

And that's, you know, for me, that was in my comfort zone.

Okay, there was definitely times when you'd have to go out on a, you know, six out of bike ride

that was stretching.

But it's kind of what I knew and what I was comfortable with. And obviously, training for hockey, you know, you've got your structure, you've got your goals and you're working towards it. And the Vipassna thing, I'd sort of heard about it and kept coming up over a period of a few years.

And I became more and more intrigued by it. The Vipasna thing, I sort of heard about it and kept coming up over a period of a few years.

And I became more and more intrigued by it.

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