What’s caused reading scores to drop to worst point in decades? Education expert weighs in
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🗓️ 15 September 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Math and reading scores have dropped to their lowest levels in more than two decades among high school seniors. |
| 0:07.0 | William Brangham reports on new test scores that have many educators and other experts concerned. |
| 0:13.3 | That's right, Omna. These scores come from the latest so-called Nations Report Card, |
| 0:18.2 | which is put out by the National Assessment of Educational Progress, |
| 0:21.9 | and it shows that student achievement has continued to decline significantly since the pandemic. |
| 0:27.9 | Among high school seniors, the average reading score last year was the lowest since the assessment |
| 0:33.0 | began in 1992. What's worse, nearly a third of seniors did not have the basic reading skills |
| 0:39.9 | needed to find the details in a given text to understand its meaning. Average math scores also |
| 0:46.8 | slip to their lowest levels since 2005. There are many theories about what is going on here, |
| 0:53.5 | and so to explore some of that, we are joined by Thomas Kane. |
| 0:56.9 | He's a professor of education at Harvard's Graduate School of Education. |
| 1:01.5 | Thomas Kane, thank you so much for being here. |
| 1:04.2 | Somewhat of a broad question for you, but what is your best assessment as to why these scores are so low and continuing to decline? |
| 1:12.2 | So, first of all, these latest results are not surprising, unfortunately. |
| 1:18.4 | Our research center has been tracking trends for individual districts around the country |
| 1:24.6 | for the last three or four years. What is new is the degree to which |
| 1:29.9 | these losses are concentrated among the lower achieving students. So the 10th percentile student in the |
| 1:37.1 | U.S. has lost about two great equivalents since 2015. That's a large loss. And, you know, it'll be equivalent to about |
| 1:46.7 | 5% of lifetime earning. So this would have impacts on future income inequality if we don't |
| 1:53.4 | reverse it. So can you run us through what the sort of principal theories are as to why we are in |
| 1:59.2 | the state we're in? There are three hypotheses to explain what's been happening. |
| 2:05.5 | Number one is there's been a decline in focus on test-based accountability since the No Child |
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