Hey everyone this is David Green and welcome to the last left right and center of

2023 can't believe we are saying that with this new year I mean we are entering a presidential election year officially and also the possibility of a second Donald Trump presidency is becoming less of a thought experiment and more of a reality.

And so we're going to spend a lot of today examining what a second term could mean for vital institutions in our country, also for the identity

of the United States, because here's the truth.

Both Trump's fiercest supporters and also his fiercest critics will all likely agree

that our government and our country will look very different if Trump is back in the

White House and a lot of people think that they they want that version of the United States that the

president is is talking about. And so I want to talk this through with our regular

crew. We have Moelathie, Executive Director at Georgetown University's

Institute of Politics and Public Service.

He was Communications Director for the Democratic National Committee and Advisor to Hillary Clinton.

Sarah Isger is here.

She's senior editor at the dispatch.

She is a lawyer. She was a editor at the dispatch she is a lawyer she was

spokesperson at the Department of Justice under President Trump

hello to you both and happy early new year

happy holidays yeah well Happy holidays. Yeah.

Well, Sarah, I kind of want to start with you because I actually, I think a lot about one of the earliest conversations that we had when we started working on this show together.

I mean, you told me that you and a lot of conservatives in your circles who worked in the

first Trump administration are probably not going to be there if there's a second one.

And you said that that makes a second Trump presidency potentially very different and potentially

more dangerous and I think you know that that's a perfect framing for what we're talking about today like remind us what you mean and sort of

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