Hey, pull up a chair. It's hacks on tap with David Axelrod, Robert Gibbs, and Mike Murphy. And honestly there's been no president since Abraham Lincoln and perhaps in a certain way including Abraham Lincoln but there's been no president since Abraham

Lincoln that has done more for the black individual in this country than President Donald J Trump.

There's been nobody, not even close.

There you have it, Mike Murphy.

Better than honest Abe, the great emancipator is in second-

I hope there's room on Mount Rushmore, you know,

there's a big mountain, maybe we can fit one more in.

They maybe can turn it into condos.

Yeah, well, you would try, you would try with Saudi dough. Okay, so here we are. Yeah.

Go ahead and introduce our guest here because he's right there in the belly of the beast where I know we had to go to the

pro the long-running show is about to end yeah yeah yeah who can give us the eyewitness

report and a lot of political insight across the board our dear friend

Hack extraordinaire Howard Wilson Howard welcome to Hacks.

Good to be with you.

What you're close up so you must be getting a lot of coverage of this trial down there in

lower Manhattan certainly in the New York Post coverage of a certain kind.

What is your sense A of where this is going and B, whether it matters?

There's nobody that I know in New York who's following this at all other than the

Trump accolades who show up to the trial wearing their identical dukes and red ties.

Had the Hell's Angels guy there yesterday.

Looking, looking like Donald Trump in his suit.

I do not think it will have any impact whatsoever on the presidential

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