Westminster Hour 7 September 2025
Westminster Hour
BBC
4.0 • 257 Ratings
🗓️ 7 September 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Ben Wright and guests analyse Keir Starmer's reshuffle and the Reform UK conference.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.4 | Hello and welcome to this edition of The Westminster Hour with me, Ben Wright, and my guests. |
| 0:12.2 | After the Prime Minister's major ministerial rejig, there is one job he can't fill, |
| 0:17.1 | that of Deputy Labour Leader. |
| 0:19.6 | Angela Raina's resignation has left a vacancy for the elected post. |
| 0:23.3 | We'll ask if a divisive battle now looms. |
| 0:26.8 | Compounding Labour's woes is the rise of Reform UK. |
| 0:30.0 | I've been to their conference and tested the mood among both activists and leading lights. |
| 0:35.6 | And with the new Home Secretary saying she will explore all options |
| 0:39.1 | to bring order to the immigration system, we'll consider how radical Shabana Mahmood might be. |
| 0:46.2 | That's all coming up. But first, let's meet my guests. Thangham-debon-Air became a Labour |
| 0:51.2 | peer in the House of Lords earlier this year. Before that, she spent nine years on the Green Benches as the MP for Bristol West |
| 0:57.9 | before losing her seat to the Green Party at the general election. |
| 1:01.7 | A professional cellist before politics, Thangham was a member of Kirstama's Shadow Cabinet in opposition. |
| 1:08.4 | Now he's been shuffling his ministers around all weekend, Thangham. Shouldn't you be waiting by your phone for a call from number 10 instead of talking to us? |
| 1:15.5 | I'm really happy to serve the country as a bat-bench labour peer. |
| 1:20.8 | Tina Stoll has been a Conservative peer in the House of Lords since 2011. |
| 1:24.8 | She is a former member of David Cameron's cabinet, serving as leader of the House of Lords since 2011. She is a former member of David Cameron's cabinet, |
| 1:28.5 | serving as leader of the House of Lords until 2016. She's also a former executive here at |
| 1:33.9 | the BBC and used to be the chair of the charity commission. I'm sure you've been at the sharp end |
| 1:39.9 | of some reshuffles in your time, Tina. A nervy time, isn't it, for both the up and coming and the down and going? Yeah, it is. Well, it's kind of one of those moments when, you know, you realize that, you know, as quick as it, as quick as you can go up, you know, as quicker you can come down. So, no, it's quite a fluctuating fortunes of a political career. Yes. Tim Bale is Professor of Politics at Queen Mary University of London. His many excellent books cover British and European politics, and he's become one of the most, one of the must read writers on the Conservative Party. His latest is called the Conservative Party after Brexit, turmoil and transformation. |
| 2:18.2 | And turmoil, I guess, Tim, might fairly accurately describe the last few days. |
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