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Hello and welcome to this edition of The Westminster Hour with me, Ben Wright, and my guests.

The government says the welfare system is broken and indefensible.

But do ministers have a plan to fix it or just to cut benefits relied on by millions of sick and disabled people?

We'll discuss that.

Plus, Kemi Badenok is launching the Conservatives Policy Renewal Process, what might it come up with,

and will it help rebuild the party's fortunes? Military chiefs are heading to London to discuss plans for a security force in Ukraine. we'll ask how the coalition of the willing

is shaping up. That is all to come. First, let's meet my panel. Jeevan Sander is the Labour MP

for Loughbara. He previously worked in the Treasury and at the Department for Work and Pensions.

Jeevan, the cabinet minister Peter Kyle has revealed that he asked Chat-G-T for advice on

what podcast he should appear on.

Did you consult AI before accepting our invitation to come back and join us tonight?

I don't get that many invitations as it happens, so I just said yes.

Tush, touch.

George Freeman represents Mid-Norfolk.

He was science minister in the last government,

conservative government,

also serving as a UK trade envoy

and as chair of the party's policy board.

He founded the Big Tent Ideas Festival

and has a particular interest

in the biotech and life sciences sector.

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