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The Bakari Sellers Podcast

Wes Moore on Freddie Gray, Police Accountability, and Closing the Racial Wealth Gap

The Bakari Sellers Podcast

The Ringer

Politics, News

4.8966 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Bakari is joined by Wes Moore, CEO of the poverty-fighting nonprofit Robin Hood, to talk about how the death of Freddie Gray impacted his hometown of Baltimore (2:53), how to hold police more accountable going forward (10:22), and the work that he is doing to close the racial wealth gap (26:57). Host: Bakari Sellers Guest: Wes Moore Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Bakari Salas Podcast.

0:15.0

Today we'll be interviewing my brother Wes Moore, but it's been a busy week and

0:20.0

before I get to Wes we have to talk about the Chauvin verdict and more importantly

0:24.7

what this all means for the future of policing and police accountability.

0:30.4

Obviously as most of you all now know, former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin was found

0:36.0

guilty on all three charges this past week, and sentencing is in about eight weeks.

0:41.0

It should be clear to anyone that's been following this that what we saw in this week's verdict wasn't justice, but instead some accountability for the murder we all witness.

0:50.0

Justice for us is a world where passing a fake $20 bill doesn't end up being a death sentence,

0:55.0

and we're far removed from what true justice looks like in this country.

0:59.0

And even the lower bar of police accountability is still far too difficult to come by unless there's a

1:04.8

tape of an officer kneeling on your neck for almost 10 minutes. If we're being honest, so far

1:10.7

as federal policing reform is concerned, we should keep expectations low.

1:15.0

The George Floyd Justice and Policing Act should be law, and it helps move the needle on so many issues from accountability to making it easier to prosecute officers

1:24.1

to use of force standards to keeping bad officers permanently off our streets

1:28.8

but it's unlikely to pass why because we need 60 votes to get police reform done and that means

1:35.3

asking Republicans to take votes against police unions and that also applies to

1:39.5

some moderate Senate Democrats who care far more about what police unions have to say

1:45.2

than Black Lives. Their Black Lives Matters tweets notwithstanding.

1:50.0

We could eliminate the filibuster and dare moderate Senate Democrats to take a stand and have to vote the way they tweet,

1:56.7

but that would be too much like right. So what should we do? Well to me, what I know is that our local governments tend to skew Democratic and every local government needs to pursue a police reform and accountability agenda that goes as far as the state allows them to go.

2:11.5

And from our friends in state legislatures,

2:13.8

do what Maryland did and pass comprehensive policing reform.

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