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Hi, and welcome to the Origins Podcast. I'm your host, Lawrence Krauss. This week, we had the

remarkable opportunity to visit with the filmmaker Werner Herzog at his home in L.A., and it was

a remarkable conversation. Verner is not only one of the most important filmmakers in the last 50 years,

indeed, Francois Truffauts called him the most important filmmaker alive at the time. But he's a thoroughly fascinating

and interesting human being, thoughtful, well-read, widely experienced, and also knowledgeable

about topics including science, and I've had many such discussions with him. Now, we decided

not to do a retrospective of his

films. It's been done before. Of course we discuss and he discusses the films in the context of what

we're talking about, but we decided to focus on ideas. And our discussion ranged incredibly broadly

over everything from norms and political correctness to the Catholic Church, to the

nature of evil, and the nature of nature itself. I think you'll find his ideas provocative

and fascinating, and the stories of his own experience is truly remarkable. Verner's often been

called the most misunderstood man in the world, and I think you'll see the man you see here may be very different

than the man you've heard about, in particular,

very different from the villain he played in Jack Reacher.

So, with no further ado, Werner, thank you so much for letting us invade your solitude.

I'm happy to say for those people are watching that Werner and I are both fully vaccinated

and we feel comfortable being this far apart without our masks. So you don't

have to write in. Good to be together with you, the two villains in movies. That's right.

You are a wonderful villain in Salted Fire. One of the highlights of...

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