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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Wellness Unmasked Weekly Rundown: CDC Shakeup: Leadership Clash, Vaccine Policy Turmoil, and Public Trust on the Line

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Daily News

4.511.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Nicole Saphier unpacks the fallout from the CDC’s leadership shakeup, including the firing of Director Dr. Susan Monarez. She examines the clashes with Secretary Kennedy, the controversies surrounding the ACIP committee’s vaccine recommendations, and the growing rift between the CDC and FDA. Nicole warns that transparency gaps, data concerns, and untested policy shifts risk eroding public trust and could have lasting consequences for American families and public health.

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0:00.0

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0:04.0

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0:10.7

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0:31.2

Welcome back to Wellness on Mass. I'm Dr. Nicole Sapphire, and this is your weekly rundown.

0:36.2

Okay, I have to talk about what's going on

0:38.9

at the CDC right now. It was a busy week. We said a lot of hearings. We're having ASIP meetings.

0:44.5

More's going to be happening today. But here's where we're at so far. Now, if you don't know,

0:49.1

Dr. Susan Monares, who was the most recent past CDC director, She was appointed by President Trump. She underwent

0:57.6

Senate confirmation, the first one to ever have to do that, 29 days after she assumed that role

1:03.4

as CDC director, Secretary Kennedy and President Trump fired her. Huh. Why did they fire her after

1:09.3

they just had all this glowing praise to say about her?

1:12.0

Good question. We don't really know. And the way it's playing out feels like an episode of

1:16.9

Saved by the Bells for all of you 90s children or 90s adolescents out there. Secretary Kennedy

1:22.1

said that he couldn't trust her. Dr. Menares said I was asked to rubber stamp the new ASIP's potential future

1:31.7

changes and recommendations to the childhood vaccine schedule. And, you know, it's gone back and

1:38.0

forth. Secretary Kennedy last week in the Senate finance hearing said that Dr. Minars is

1:43.7

essentially a liar. He just straight

1:45.8

up called her a liar about a conversation they had. And Dr. Menares, in her hearing, also called

1:52.9

him a liar, saying that the conversation, well, actually, she didn't directly call him a liar.

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