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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Wellness Unmasked: Are We Facing a Baby Bust? Understanding America's Declining Birthrate

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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4.311.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Dr. Nicole Saphier and Heritage Foundation policy expert Emma Waters examine America’s declining birthrate, a crisis with serious economic and cultural consequences. They discuss how falling marriage rates, delayed parenthood, and rising infertility contribute to the problem, and critique the limited effectiveness of government incentives.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Wellness on Mass. I'm your host, Dr. Nicole Sapphire. And today we're diving into kind of a quiet, but potentially a consequential crisis.

0:10.0

America's steadily declining birth rate. That's right. When it comes to how many babies we're having, we are below what it's recommended if we're going to keep our population up.

0:20.0

Meaning as our population continues to age, we're going to keep our population up, meaning as our population

0:22.2

continues to age, we're having fewer and fewer babies. And ever since 2023, our numbers are

0:27.4

way below where it needs to be. That 2.1 is that goal mark. They want people to be having on

0:32.5

average about about two kids per woman. While Elon Musk has been been very vocal about this for anybody who follows him on

0:40.1

X. I mean, he obviously makes headlines for a lot of reasons, but he's absolutely been sounding the

0:45.3

alarm on the very issue we're going to be discussing. He said, in quote, population collapse due to low birth

0:51.3

rates is a much bigger risk to civilization than global warning.

0:55.6

Mark these words.

0:57.2

And he continues to say things like he argued that we need a fertility rate of at least 2.7

1:02.3

children for women, so not two children for women, but he's arguing up to three to stabilize

1:08.6

the population because so many today are choosing not to have children at all.

1:13.4

So why is that? Well, there's a lot of reasons. There are fewer people getting married.

1:19.0

People are getting married and having babies later on in life. So therefore, they're having

1:22.6

fewer kids. It's more expensive. We're also seeing fertility issues here in the United States and across the

1:28.9

world. You have menstruation changes in young girls, a lot of women having difficulty, having babies.

1:34.8

And then on top of that, the answer to everyone's problem seems to be IVF. Well, IVF is expensive

1:41.1

and it's not something that everybody wants to do. And so instead of tackling

1:45.9

the root causes of why people aren't having as many babies anymore, we keep just saying, all right,

1:51.9

we'll just do IVF or we'll do whatever it is. But we need to look at some of the root causes.

1:56.3

I'm extremely excited today to have Emma Waters. She's a policy expert at the Heritage Foundation.

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