I'm Glennon Doyle, author of Untamed, and host of the podcast, We Can Do Hard Things.

On We Can Do Hard Things, my wife, Abby, my sister Amanda, and I talk honestly about the hard

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Hello and welcome back to Well Played.

I'm Caroline Henderson.

And I'm Blake Morgan.

And my voice is on its way out. I like it. I like that sound on you. I don't. It's not my favorite.

It's not really beautiful. I kind of want like I was saying off air. When I was a preteen,

I always tried to lose my voice on purpose because I was saying me too. Because then people

would have to ask you like, what are you doing this weekend? And I just wanted the attention. Classic youngest child attention seekers. So bad. It's so embarrassing. Honestly, I still do it today,

but that's another story for another day because we have so much to talk about today. So much.

It's kind of remarkable. We're going to be joined by a special guest. Her name is Nora Princiotti, host of the every single album podcast, also of The Ringer NFL show. She talks a lot about Taylor Swift.

You're going to want to stick around for that. We have some questions, but also football as well.

Yeah, I also just learned that Blake isn't like the largest Taylor Swift fan, and that might be,

it might be the end of our friendship. I said no. I think that things can be vended. I just preferred

her music before in 1989. I liked her when she was a country star. Okay, I said no. I think that things can be vended. I just preferred her music before in

1989. I liked her when she was a country star. Okay, I understand that. I knew the words to tear

tear drops on my guitar. Yeah, same. Had that CD. Our song, love story. Like, I was there for that,

but I think I can be molded. Okay. I'm willing to take on that challenge. We've also got our send it coming up featuring all the

best clips and viral moments. You should be sending to the group chat, so don't miss that. We also

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