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H.B.R. presents. Hi, I'm Azimazar, the host of the Exponential View Podcast.

Every week I tackle some of the most complex questions about the near future of our society

with a brilliant thinker.

My guest today is not shy about examining and championing bold ideas.

Indeed at this year's World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, she asked the CEOs of both

Microsoft and MasterCard what role industrial pioneers should play in fermenting

social revolution.

Hillary Cotton is an activist, innovator and social entrepreneur.

She combines thinking with radical practice.

Her widely celebrated book Radical Help tells a story of her years working in vulnerable communities

and how, using simple digital technologies, she was able to build relationship networks and

structures, which far outperformed the bloated, expensive and failing welfare state.

Last year, Hillary launched a manifesto for the fifth social revolution, calling on the bosses in business and technology, the new industrialists for leadership in radically transforming the structure of the economy for a sustainable future. and radically

transforming the structure of the economy for a sustainable future.

Hillary, welcome to the exponential view podcast.

It's a pleasure, thank you so much for having me.

Now I've been meaning to get you on the podcast for a while,

certainly since I read your book Radical Help last year, and that I was motivated

to get you on straight away when I saw this January during the World Economic Forum's prestige event in Davos which is sort of the hub for capitalism and globalization that you were chairing a discussion between Satya Nadella the CEO of

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