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Politics Unpacked

Welfare Bill in Crisis

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Rebel MPs are not backing down over the government's welfare bill, with Keir Starmer forced to contemplate concessions - can he win them over? 

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0:00.0

I'm Ed Vasey and we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day from the rebellion over welfare cuts to whether you'd leave an 18-year-old in charge of a council.

0:13.6

Joining me are two of the wisest people at the Times and Sunday Times.

0:17.1

I'd leave them in charge of a local authority any day.

0:20.5

That's Manvine Rana. Welcome to the show.

0:23.7

Hello. And Matthew Syed. Hiya. How are you? Great to see you. Last time I saw Ed, I should tell

0:30.5

listeners, and I was walking down the steps at Westminster Tube. And I saw Ed, and we hadn't met before,

0:37.3

I don't think, Ed Ed and I put out my

0:39.3

hand and he said Matthew can I have your telephone number but in a very enticing manner that surprised

0:48.0

me he said you're shocked aren't you to be asked for your telephone number and I said I am a little

0:51.5

but there was a bit of a frisson there I felt Ed so it was great it was great to me physically gosh I don't want to interrupt

0:59.3

I've been dining out I have been dining out on this story I mean everybody loves

1:05.6

man Vien Rana and everybody loves Matthew Syed but when Matthew comes on the show I get

1:10.6

lots of texts and people say oh he's so wise Matthew comes on the show I get lots of

1:11.0

texts and people saying oh he's so wise and so on and then I said to him uh well I did I costed

1:16.6

him in the tube and I forgot the kind of niceties like good morning and how are you so nice to see

1:23.2

you I just said give me your phone number because basically I want to have a drink with him

1:26.1

because I agree with everything he says which doesn't obviously necessarily make this a very good and instructive podcast, because I'll just keep saying, I agree with you, Matthew, and I'll probably say exactly the same thing to Manveen as well, but we're going to do our best.

1:40.3

But as I say, not only does Amelia my producer think I'm a total weirdo because of my tattoos now that I've told the whole

1:46.1

team about my man crush on

1:48.2

Matthew they think I'm even

1:50.0

stranger anyway let's start

1:52.1

Is he going to be one of the tattoos

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