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To The Best Of Our Knowledge

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To The Best Of Our Knowledge

Wisconsin Public Radio

Prx, Philosophy, Knowledge, Wpr, Ttbook, Wisconsin, Society & Culture

4.7844 Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Some 500 years ago, the Scientific Revolution transformed civilization. It paved the way for new technology and commerce, but it also created a worldview that set humans above and apart from the rest of nature, leading to the abuse of the planet’s resources. Today, a new scientific paradigm is taking shape; an understanding that all life on Earth — from the tiniest bacteria to the largest ecosystem — is interconnected. Call it biocentrism or “Gaia 2.0.” Anne and Steve travel to the Island of Knowledge in Italy to meet a new generation of scientists and philosophers.

Original Air Date: April 05, 2025

Interviews In This Hour:
Why the human imagination is both our greatest gift and weaponJust how smart is a robot dog?How Galileo helped create the modern worldThe new science of 'planetary intelligence'

Guests:
Peter Tse, Marcelo Gleiser, Adam Frank


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0:00.0

Hi, and welcome back to To the Best of Our Knowledge. I'm Anne Strangeamps. So I want to set up

0:06.8

today's show by taking us back roughly 500 years to the beginning of the scientific revolution,

0:13.0

which created a way of looking at the world that we kind of take for granted right now,

0:18.4

a way that sets humans above and apart from the rest of nature, from the

0:22.9

rest of life. So this way of thinking transformed civilization ushered in technology and commerce and

0:29.8

everything else we're familiar with. But it also set the stage for the use and abuse of the

0:35.9

planet's resources, with, we now know, devastating

0:39.5

consequences. So today, a new scientific paradigm is taking shape, a new understanding that all

0:47.1

of life on Earth, from the tiniest bacteria to the largest ecosystem, is inextricably intertwined.

0:54.3

You can call this biocentrism, or Gaia 2.0,

0:57.6

or the re-sacralization of the planet.

1:00.2

Question is, what kind of future does it promise?

1:04.2

Keep listening. From WPR.

1:11.6

It's to the best of our knowledge.

1:23.6

I'm Anne Strange Champs.

1:25.6

And I'm Steve Paulson.

1:26.6

And today we're headed to an unlikely site for a scientific revolution.

1:31.3

Have you seen the olives on the trees are really good.

1:34.3

Yeah, there are a few.

1:35.3

A 16th century church on a Tuscan hillside where a remarkable experiment in thinking is taking place.

1:42.3

An effort to craft a new scientific paradigm.

1:49.0

Humanity is essentially at a crossroads, right? Our very project of civilization is at risk, and I'm not the first one to say that, obviously.

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