Welcome to Rwanda
Seriously...
BBC
4.1 • 885 Ratings
🗓️ 29 July 2022
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
The government has described Rwanda, where it intends to send some people who arrive illegally in the UK, as "one of the world's safest nations". But this small, landlocked country in east Africa divides opinion. To some, it’s the Singapore of Africa, with a burgeoning economy, clean streets and gleaming skyscrapers. It’s also heralded for having the highest proportion of women parliamentarians in the world. But to others, Rwanda is a frightening and repressive place. In this programme, Victoria Uwonkunda looks at what’s happening in the country of her birth, which she fled as a child during the genocide of 1994. Is this country a developmental model for the rest of the continent – or an autocratic and ruthless state?
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| 0:00.0 | This was an impregnable fortress. The only way you get out was in a wooden box. |
| 0:05.0 | The controversial maximum security prison impossible to escape from. |
| 0:09.0 | And one of the duties of a political prisoner is the escape. |
| 0:12.0 | The IRA inmates who found a way. of a political prisoner is the escape. |
| 0:12.5 | The IRA inmates who found a way. |
| 0:14.5 | I'm Carlo Gableer and I'll be navigating a path |
| 0:19.5 | through the disturbing inside story of the biggest jailbreak in British and Irish history. |
| 0:25.0 | The narrative that they want is that this is a big achievement by them. |
| 0:28.5 | Escape from the maze, listen first on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:35.0 | BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, Music Radio Podcasts. |
| 0:39.0 | Welcome to Seriously from BBC Radio 4. |
| 0:43.2 | I'm Vanessa Kasule. |
| 0:44.8 | Each week this podcast brings you two of the best documentaries the audio world has to offer. |
| 0:50.4 | You've never heard anything quite like this. |
| 0:53.0 | Those who travel to the UK by illegal and dangerous routes including by small boats across the channel |
| 1:05.3 | may be relocated to Rwanda. |
| 1:07.2 | Let's be clear. |
| 1:08.9 | Rwanda is one of the safest countries in the world. |
| 1:12.6 | If they take us to Rwanda, what are we going to do there? |
| 1:15.2 | Like, it's a lot worse place than Afghanistan, right? |
| 1:17.6 | There is no future for us in Rwanda. |
| 1:19.2 | Rwanda? |
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