Hi, I'm Ellie Anderson.

And I'm David Pena Guzman.

And we're your favorite new professors.

We're super excited to share with you our new podcast, Overtink.

So David, let's tell our listeners a little bit about how we decided to start this podcast.

You and I have known each other for almost 10 years. We met in graduate school where you were a

couple of years above me in the PhD program and philosophy at Emory University. I am your senior.

If you are, I love to rub it in. And we found ourselves last summer taking a road trip from your place in San Francisco up to Ashland, Oregon together for our friend's wedding. So we were having all kinds of amazing conversations on this trip. And I remember that this is when you pitched the idea to me of starting a podcast together.

I was eating a strange combination of an entire avocado, which I was peeling on the spot and laying anchovies on top of it while driving.

Yes, driving and speeding while holding a slippery avocado and some anchovies.

Thank you for reminding me of this near-death

experience I once had. And I think it's really important to note that this emerged out of a conversation.

And conversation is a profoundly philosophical genre. This idea that it's multiple people speaking

back and forth, trying to clarify concepts and figure out what they believe,

a sort of friendly debate. There's such a long history of that, stretching back millennia in philosophy.

Yeah, there is Socrates and Plato with the dialogic form. There is a major epistolary tradition

in the early modern period. People writing letters to each other back and forth.

Exactly.

And in those cases, you see philosophy really emerging and growing out of a communal situation,

rather than being a monologue that one has with oneself.

Definitely.

Because I think sometimes philosophy gets a bad rap for being a little bit backwards. No offense to Kant,

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