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The Daily Beast Podcast

'Weird' Stephen Miller Is Trump's Biggest Suck-Up

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Miller is the ultimate suck-up, a master of shameless flattery whose influence keeps him at the center of Trump’s orbit. Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to unpack how Miller’s relentless devotion to Trump reflects the chaos and destruction in the East Wing. The two also touch on how Wolff’s countersuit against Melania has spurred a bizarre AI-generated TMZ story that falsely claimed he was writing a tell-all about the first lady. They preview their first live ‘Inside Trump’s Head’ event at the Museum of the City of New York, where Wolff promises more revelations about Trump, Epstein, and the ecosystem that enables them.

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0:00.0

I've gone around to several White House people, and I said, explain Stephen Miller to me.

0:05.8

What? Because he's, you know, I mean, as we, we talked the other day, he's a weirdo.

0:12.4

Even Trump acknowledges that he's a, he's a weirdo. So I said, explain this to me.

0:17.9

Explain this rise. How does he keep rising? And across the board, there's one explanation. And everybody rushes to it. They say, he's the most incredible suckup. You have never seen this. I mean, the flattery, the ooze, you know, when he is in the room with the president, with, with, with, with

0:42.4

Trump, it just can't stop. And it's one of the few things, and as I say, several people are reporting

0:49.8

this to me. It's one of the few things that makes Trump shut up. He just likes to listen.

0:55.7

This whole effort to remake the color of America is really comes down to Stephen Miller's

1:02.5

ability to flatter the president. Even more than Hegseth, he sucks up. Stephen Miller is the

1:10.2

winner of the suck-up contest. Michael. Oh my God, Joanna.

1:16.9

Oh, my God, Michael. We are going so deep inside Trump's head. But I'm worried that it's just a kind of,

1:25.2

I think it might just be a lot of electrical fuses.

1:28.3

I love our design here of inside Trump.

1:31.5

So you can't see it.

1:32.3

I love our, where can you see it?

1:34.6

There we go.

1:35.3

I love our design of inside Trump's head.

1:37.5

That's literally what it feels like it must be going on right there.

1:41.6

What are we going to find?

1:43.4

I can't even explain the succession of things that

1:46.1

have happened virtually in the last day or slightly longer. I mean, it is from the,

1:53.6

from breaking up, the, blowing up the relationship with Canada over a fit of peak, over some

2:00.5

ad on television, to pardoning this

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