Hi, everyone, I'm Joanna.

And I'm Jenny.

And this is hyphenated, the podcast about living in the hyphen.

How are you, Jene?

No, Forrest Gump reference.

So today, we wanted to talk about something that I have always been fascinated by, which

is like superstitions, because I'm not a religious person.

I don't believe in any of that stuff.

And in my house, like, my house is very not religious.

My dad is like complete atheist.

He thinks we're just soil for trees.

And he's superstitious.

Like he believes,

he straight up believes in the concept of jinxing something.

And I'm like,

you don't believe in the concept of God

and like some abstract being in control of our destiny destiny but you think that if I say oh it looks

like it's not going to rain it's going to cause it to rain the the logic makes no sense to me

that is really fucking funny you grew up in a super superstitious super superstitious

household that shit still plagues me like I was just was just, like, looking up assavache's on Etsy, like, two days ago.

Wait, what has to do with, like, evil eye?

It's an onyx gemstone to ward off el mal de ojo.

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