Oh my god, hi! You frightened me. I'm Dave Holmes and welcome to Troubled Waters. The show

the treats popular culture is the most important kind of culture to celebrate, analyze, and

eviscerate it. Troubled Waters pits a pair of entertainers against one another in a pop culture

battle. To the ego death to win this battle, each guest will be called upon to use their smarts,

their rhetorical skills, the great comebacks

that are occupying a part of their amygdala. They've just been dying to get out to earn the

coveted troubled waters title, Pundit Amaritus. That title will automatically give their opinion

on Uncle Baby Billy's Bible Bunker and whether that is a prosthetic. This is all from the

righteous gemstones, by the way. Welcome back, Righteous Gemstones. More weight than a

civilians. You're listening to Troubled Waters. Let's meet our guests.

Our first contestant is a writer. Her newest book on her terms is out now.

It is St. Louis's own, Amy Spalding.

Amy, welcome.

Oh, my God, I'm so excited to be here, and I'm excited.

St. Louis with you, Dave.

That's right.

When was the last time you were back?

I was back in early March, and it was colder than the forecast said when I packed a week ago,

because I was at the end of my book tour.

So progressively throughout traveling everywhere, I had planned, it got colder than it said it was going to be,

and I had packed a light denim jacket as my heavy layer.

Talks about on her terms.

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