Hi, I'm David Lowry.

And I'm Anne Hathaway.

And this is the A24 podcast.

And I've been doing a lot of podcasts lately and wondering what it's like to be in the moderator's seat.

And I realize now that I don't like it.

Does it feel different than being a director?

I feel I can get away with just you've experienced this

sunset when I just unleash a slew of words that don't necessarily make sense, but hopefully

convey the emotion of what I'm trying to ask for. And I feel like I can't get away with that

behind the microphone right now. Well, one of the things that I've experienced when I'm, I find that I'm in like my favorite

kind of deep collaboration with the director is we kind of get to a place where you don't have

to say anything.

You just, I can feel when I'm acting how they feel about a take and then they'll come out

from behind the monitor and just kind of give me a look, and I, like, raise my hand, or they'll come over and, you know, put their head against my head, and I feel like I'm downloaded. And, uh, anyway, all this is to say, that doesn't work in a podcast. It doesn't work in podcast. You and I just touch heads for half an hour. Exactly. And everyone's like, well.

Yeah, it sounds like an experience.

But I felt that that was kind of our thing on this one.

I felt like you and Michaela connected over the power of the words, you both being writers.

And I felt that, you know, given, and we've talked about this, given that Mother Mary is an emotionally and articulate person, I actually found that it really hampered my ability to communicate while I was her.

And I felt like it kind of, Mother Mary is an expression of the part of you that sometimes finds it,

find it difficult to find your words.

So between the two of us, we had no choice but to trust the wavelength.

Completely.

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